xvflutop Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lovie interviews for Texans I am actually happy to see him possibly get another coach. I think he is a good coach... Just needs an offense that is independent to be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Logical location for him, and the team makeup seems to fit as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Logical location for him, and the team makeup seems to fit as well. That would be a bend but don't break defense combined with an offense that struggles in all aspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan2000 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 maybe the time away has been good for him. I think overall he's a good coach, he just needs to let go of the blind loyalty to his buddies that he likes to bring in, and be flexible with the D, 4-3 Tampa 2 vs their current 3-4 could be a sticky issue. Just as it could have been for us with some of the candidates we interviewed being 3-4 guys. If Lovie can surround himself with quality OC and DC and let those guys do their thing he could find success there. Problem is in Chicago he was hell bent on running HIS Tampa 2 and didn't allow for deviation which is why he stuck with his buddy in Rod. It worked here because we had the talent on that side of the ball and early on had the guys up front to make that D work. This year proves why you need flexibility. If you are weak up front and can't get pass rush the D doesn't work without creative blitzing. Loyalty is one thing but blind loyalty was a big part of his downfall here. Angelo didn't help matters by failing to address the line. We all got sick of hearing "we like our guys" when those guys were scrubs who'd not likely make anyone else's starting lineup. Offensively Texans are a mess Foster is is on the decline, Tate will be gone, Andre Johnson is their only real stud WR and he's hit or miss. Smith would be inheriting an offense that is crumbling, and a good D. Not saying it can't work but a Smith lead Texans could be a strong defensive team with an anemic offense. Sound familiar? But if he can hit on his coordinators there's a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Don't care... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackerDog Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Don't care... Ha! Me too. But with that said, I did expect Lovie to get another job. He wasn't perfect, wasn't a great coach, but he was good at a number of things and Houston could do a lot worse. I wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 I agree. He is certainly good enough compared to a lot of others options for teams. In fact, I think he'd be devestatingly good for Detroit. That's why I want him elsewhere! I am glad he's gone, but I do wish him well except when it impacts us! Ha! Me too. But with that said, I did expect Lovie to get another job. He wasn't perfect, wasn't a great coach, but he was good at a number of things and Houston could do a lot worse. I wish him well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luciano Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 i gotta disagree. lovie is NOT more than an average defensive coach and a lot less than average, in fact POOR, head coach. with multiple all-pro/pro-bowl, and throw in a couple of probable HOF players, his defense was in my opinion just average against high octane offenses. except on rare occasions it was not geared to beat very good teams with upper tier passing attacks as he showed year after year. the soft zones were exploited time and again making poor QB's look like all-pro HOF candidates. he has no ability to adjust his defenses to what players he is forced to play. he relies on a system outdated by a decade and has no counter game plans to fall back on. he has to have turnovers to win which can work probably about 50% of the time and usually against lesser opponents. in big games when top tier QB's can control the clock and time of possession and play turnover free games, his bend (over) and don't break defense keeps our offense off the field. plain and simple it didn't work no matter WHAT the stats say. his personnel decision were not just bad, they were atrocious. he had absolutely no clue what to do with an offense or it's coordinators (think martz) and in fact his decision to hire baboonich as our DC was mindbogglingly bad and no better when HE took over as DC. if the texans are thinking of hiring him to me that is insanity. they already have a top notch DC in little bum. phillips would go the same way that rivera went in chicago and where is there offense headed? i don't like the texans so to me this is a great hire. if the lions were to sign lovie i would jump for joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 i gotta disagree. lovie is NOT more than an average defensive coach and a lot less than average, in fact POOR, head coach. with multiple all-pro/pro-bowl, and throw in a couple of probable HOF players, his defense was in my opinion just average against high octane offenses. except on rare occasions it was not geared to beat very good teams with upper tier passing attacks as he showed year after year. the soft zones were exploited time and again making poor QB's look like all-pro HOF candidates. he has no ability to adjust his defenses to what players he is forced to play. he relies on a system outdated by a decade and has no counter game plans to fall back on. he has to have turnovers to win which can work probably about 50% of the time and usually against lesser opponents. in big games when top tier QB's can control the clock and time of possession and play turnover free games, his bend (over) and don't break defense keeps our offense off the field. plain and simple it didn't work no matter WHAT the stats say. his personnel decision were not just bad, they were atrocious. he had absolutely no clue what to do with an offense or it's coordinators (think martz) and in fact his decision to hire baboonich as our DC was mindbogglingly bad and no better when HE took over as DC. if the texans are thinking of hiring him to me that is insanity. they already have a top notch DC in little bum. phillips would go the same way that rivera went in chicago and where is there offense headed? i don't like the texans so to me this is a great hire. if the lions were to sign lovie i would jump for joy. 100%%%% and then some. Especially him coaching in our division... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 i gotta disagree. lovie is NOT more than an average defensive coach and a lot less than average, in fact POOR, head coach. with multiple all-pro/pro-bowl, and throw in a couple of probable HOF players, his defense was in my opinion just average against high octane offenses. except on rare occasions it was not geared to beat very good teams with upper tier passing attacks as he showed year after year. the soft zones were exploited time and again making poor QB's look like all-pro HOF candidates. he has no ability to adjust his defenses to what players he is forced to play. he relies on a system outdated by a decade and has no counter game plans to fall back on. he has to have turnovers to win which can work probably about 50% of the time and usually against lesser opponents. in big games when top tier QB's can control the clock and time of possession and play turnover free games, his bend (over) and don't break defense keeps our offense off the field. plain and simple it didn't work no matter WHAT the stats say. his personnel decision were not just bad, they were atrocious. he had absolutely no clue what to do with an offense or it's coordinators (think martz) and in fact his decision to hire baboonich as our DC was mindbogglingly bad and no better when HE took over as DC. if the texans are thinking of hiring him to me that is insanity. they already have a top notch DC in little bum. phillips would go the same way that rivera went in chicago and where is there offense headed? i don't like the texans so to me this is a great hire. if the lions were to sign lovie i would jump for joy. Yep! One good year, one bad year, repeat. Too many holes in his Tampa 2. Too passive. No clue on offense. No clue on drafting. No clue on FA. Horrendous in game coaching decisions. Laughable replay challenges. Retarded loyalty to bad assistant coaches. Zero fire. I'm with you; I'd love to see Lovie in Detroit. You can go ahead and book Cutler for 300+ and 2-3 TDs, with receivers open all over the place in the zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daventry Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Lovie seemed a good guy, at least not an embarrassing figure, but his overall coaching was a failure IMHO. And I hate the Cover 2….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan Grizzly Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hmmm..... 84-66 overall record, 3 NFC North championships and a Super Bowl appearance. My how "horrible". Good luck Lovie wherever you end up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Hmmm..... 84-66 overall record, 3 NFC North championships and a Super Bowl appearance. My how "horrible". Good luck Lovie wherever you end up. I want better than 56% regular season and 50% post season success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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