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Lucky Luciano

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when i talk about bad i don't mean just bad, i mean historically bad. some of/the worst in NFL history and THE worst in chicago bear history.

 

2012 new orleans saints allowed more yards in one season than any team in NFL history.

 

total yards 7042

passing yards - 4681

rushing - 2361 - 5.2 YPA

 

steve spagnuolo DC - FIRED after one season of badness

 

1981 baltimore colts - mike mccormack - defensive minded head coach - FIRED after his 2nd season as HC.

 

total yards - 6793

passing yards - 4128

rushing yards - 2665 - 4.4 YPA

 

the chicago bears after 15 games with mel tucker as our defensive coordinator

 

total yards after 15 games - 5840

passing yards - 3417

rushing yards - 2423 - 5.4 YPA

 

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worst run defenses 1960 forward

 

DEFENSIVE RUSHING BADNESS

2013 chicago bears 2423 rushing yds - YPA 5.4 after 15 games. so far only the '61 vikings have a worse YPA record and this season isn't even over.

 

modern era of professional footbal - 1960 forward

 

1961 vikings - 2667 yds 5.41 YPA - 14 game season

2006 colts - 2768 yds - 5.33 YPA - DC meeks with dungey NOT fired

1965 oilers (AFL) - 2683 - 5.29 YPA - 14 game season

2012 saints - 2361 yds - 5.2 YPA

2003 chiefs - 2344 yds - 5.17 YPA

1976 chiefs - 2344 yds - 5.17 YPA

2008 lions - 2754 yds - 5.14 YPA

1961 raiders - 2440 yds - 5.10 YPA

1973 patriots - 2850 yds - 5.09 YPA

1969 bengals - 2951 yds - 5.07 YPA

1960 cowboys - 2242 yds - 5.02 YPA - 14 game season

2011 bucs - 2497 yds - 5.0 YPA

 

older era 1930's - 1959

 

1934 cincinnati reds - 6.40 YPA

1950 N.Y.Yanks - 5.63 YPA

1950 colts - 5.58 YPA

1959 redskins - 5.48 YPA

 

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some of the worst pass defenses in NFL history

 

2011-12 Green Bay Packers: 4,796 Yards (15-1)

2011-12 New England Patriots: 4,704 Yards (13-3)

1995-96 Atlanta Falcons: 4,541 Yards, (9-7)

2005-06 San Francisco 49ers: 4,427 Yards (4-12)

1986-87 New York Jets: 4,389 Yards (10-6)

1981-82 San Diego Chargers: 4,311 Yards (10-6)

2010-11 Houston Texans: 4,280 Yards (6-10)

 

2013 chicago bears after 15 games - 3417 yds

 

why would we even consider keeping tucker for any reason? he has no defensive scheme because all but one year he worked under defensive minded head coaches and ran theirs.

 

the ONE year he ran his own defense with an offensive minded head coach and it was all on his shoulders as a DC (after THREE years in jacksonville) here is what he finished out with... 29th for points allowed and 30th for yards!!

 

his coaching CEILING is the bottom 1/3 of the NFL and his bottom floor you need a steam shovel to keep digging to find it!!

 

the jags had to be jumping for joy we offered him a contract.

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when i talk about bad i don't mean just bad, i mean historically bad. some of/the worst in NFL history and THE worst in chicago bear history.

 

2012 new orleans saints allowed more yards in one season than any team in NFL history.

 

total yards 7042

passing yards - 4681

rushing - 2361 - 5.2 YPA

 

steve spagnuolo DC - FIRED after one season of badness

 

1981 baltimore colts - mike mccormack - defensive minded head coach - FIRED after his 2nd season as HC.

 

total yards - 6793

passing yards - 4128

rushing yards - 2665 - 4.4 YPA

 

the chicago bears after 15 games with mel tucker as our defensive coordinator

 

total yards after 15 games - 5840

passing yards - 3417

rushing yards - 2423 - 5.4 YPA

 

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worst run defenses 1960 forward

 

DEFENSIVE RUSHING BADNESS

2013 chicago bears 2423 rushing yds - YPA 5.4 after 15 games. so far only the '61 vikings have a worse YPA record and this season isn't even over.

 

modern era of professional footbal - 1960 forward

 

1961 vikings - 2667 yds 5.41 YPA - 14 game season

2006 colts - 2768 yds - 5.33 YPA - DC meeks with dungey NOT fired

1965 oilers (AFL) - 2683 - 5.29 YPA - 14 game season

2012 saints - 2361 yds - 5.2 YPA

2003 chiefs - 2344 yds - 5.17 YPA

1976 chiefs - 2344 yds - 5.17 YPA

2008 lions - 2754 yds - 5.14 YPA

1961 raiders - 2440 yds - 5.10 YPA

1973 patriots - 2850 yds - 5.09 YPA

1969 bengals - 2951 yds - 5.07 YPA

1960 cowboys - 2242 yds - 5.02 YPA - 14 game season

2011 bucs - 2497 yds - 5.0 YPA

 

older era 1930's - 1959

 

1934 cincinnati reds - 6.40 YPA

1950 N.Y.Yanks - 5.63 YPA

1950 colts - 5.58 YPA

1959 redskins - 5.48 YPA

 

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some of the worst pass defenses in NFL history

 

2011-12 Green Bay Packers: 4,796 Yards (15-1)

2011-12 New England Patriots: 4,704 Yards (13-3)

1995-96 Atlanta Falcons: 4,541 Yards, (9-7)

2005-06 San Francisco 49ers: 4,427 Yards (4-12)

1986-87 New York Jets: 4,389 Yards (10-6)

1981-82 San Diego Chargers: 4,311 Yards (10-6)

2010-11 Houston Texans: 4,280 Yards (6-10)

 

2013 chicago bears after 15 games - 3417 yds

 

why would we even consider keeping tucker for any reason? he has no defensive scheme because all but one year he worked under defensive minded head coaches and ran theirs.

 

the ONE year he ran his own defense with an offensive minded head coach and it was all on his shoulders as a DC (after THREE years in jacksonville) here is what he finished out with... 29th for points allowed and 30th for yards!!

 

his coaching CEILING is the bottom 1/3 of the NFL and his bottom floor you need a steam shovel to keep digging to find it!!

 

the jags had to be jumping for joy we offered him a contract.

 

No im not taking Mel side but with the Jags he never had really great players to start with so his defense there was always bad. We started off with a 3-0 record and our d was getting it done....then we started to get the injury bug and we have some OLDER players and our rookies are not up to speed.... to me (Greene)was a wasted pick..Conte cant take a good angle to save his live....Wright is always out of position...Peppers is getting OLD. Shea looks lost every play, but we are going to win with the Fab Five... Cutler,Forte,Bennett (TE) Marshall & Jeffery

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Two thoughts...at least those stats show we're aways off from being as bad as the Aints (about 1000 yards off, probably, by season's end).

 

I also would put considerable thought into him having run something other than "his" defense. It's a tough call. But the downside was always that if the D looked bad, we still wouldn't know what a "Tucker" defense could do. But we traded that negative for the possibility that sticking with what has worked would keep things rolling along.

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