Bears made a mistake

[Wesson44]

I think we made a mistake by not resigning Hester. cutting Bennett and signing Hixon was good but we should have cut Weems and kept Hester. We could use him as the 5th WR to make the run plays that Jeffery does to limit Jeffery from getting hurt. .Think about Marshall...Jeffrey. ..Wilson...Hixon....Hester as the top five and Williams as the 6th WR/PR...you have hands...height and speed

[ASHKUM BEAR]

I think we made a mistake by not resigning Hester. cutting Bennett and signing Hixon was good but we should have cut Weems and kept Hester. We could use him as the 5th WR to make the run plays that Jeffery does to limit Jeffery from getting hurt. .Think about Marshall...Jeffrey. ..Wilson...Hixon....Hester as the top five and Williams as the 6th WR/PR...you have hands...height and speed

 

Weems was asked to take a pay cut and it hasn't been determined what his decision was yet. He is probably shopping himself around. The Bears no longer have the luxury of paying 3 million or more for a specialist. It's sad to see him go, but sometimes you have to make tough decisions. Williams will get the first shot, and he can play WR if needed.

[dawhizz]

You want to pay Hester $3 million per year to be your 5th WR? Cause I don't. Wilson and Hixon both have the speed to contribute in those run plays and I imagine we'll see a late round WR drafted too (I'd love to see them take a flier on Jeremy Gallon, who is a small WR who never seemed to play small). Hester doesn't offer hands or height and I don't even think he's as fast as he used to be.

[scs787]

If Trestman wanted to utilize him in the offense he would have done so last year.

 

I think Trestman would rather see Terrance Toliver as the #5 .

 

I just don't think a "burner" is necessary in the WCO Trestman runs.

[Chitownhustla]

You want to pay Hester $3 million per year to be your 5th WR? Cause I don't. Wilson and Hixon both have the speed to contribute in those run plays and I imagine we'll see a late round WR drafted too (I'd love to see them take a flier on Jeremy Gallon, who is a small WR who never seemed to play small). Hester doesn't offer hands or height and I don't even think he's as fast as he used to be.

 

 

I have not seen what Hester got paid, but if he got 3 mill a year I do not think the Bears should have resigned him for that. Too much money for a return man.

 

 

[dawhizz]

3 years, $9 million.

 

http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2014/3/21/553...falcons-in-2014

[Connorbear]

3 years, $9 million.

 

http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2014/3/21/553...falcons-in-2014

 

Hell no. He's not worth that anymore.

 

Peace

[Alaskan Grizzly]

He might be worth the money he got. Depends on a few things. With the indoor turf of Atlanta versus Chicago outdoor grass theory I've heard he (Hester) could become "faster" and elusive. He could put Atl offense in pretty good field position in order for Matt Ryan and the O to operate. If Atlanta and their O is able to make that next step past the early rounds of the playoffs and because they were able to get production out of Hester "only" as a return man, then $3 million was worth it.

 

For Atlanta that is... Not for Chicago. They needed too much elsewhere and couldn't afford that much of a luxury.

[jason]

You want to pay Hester $3 million per year to be your 5th WR? Cause I don't. Wilson and Hixon both have the speed to contribute in those run plays and I imagine we'll see a late round WR drafted too (I'd love to see them take a flier on Jeremy Gallon, who is a small WR who never seemed to play small). Hester doesn't offer hands or height and I don't even think he's as fast as he used to be.

 

EDIT -

 

Replied before seeing the link.

 

I don't like that Hester left. I think it was a mistake. But even I, his staunchest supporter on this site, didn't think $3M was feasible unless he played a little WR.

 

EDIT 2

The same reasoning is why I thought the Weems signing was stupid, since he was virtually never a WR.

[bradjock]

He might be worth the money he got. Depends on a few things. With the indoor turf of Atlanta versus Chicago outdoor grass theory I've heard he (Hester) could become "faster" and elusive. He could put Atl offense in pretty good field position in order for Matt Ryan and the O to operate. If Atlanta and their O is able to make that next step past the early rounds of the playoffs and because they were able to get production out of Hester "only" as a return man, then $3 million was worth it.

 

For Atlanta that is... Not for Chicago. They needed too much elsewhere and couldn't afford that much of a luxury.

 

Agreed. Although playing in Atlanta, most of the kick-offs are going to sail out the back of the end-zone. That means he's mainly a punt return specialist.

 

They gave 3 years 9 million to a 32 year old punt returner? That's just nuts. As for Devin playing offense, how many offensive co-ordinators say they wanted to get Devin involved in the offense and didn't. Then they were fired.

 

 

 

 

[jason]

Agreed. Although playing in Atlanta, most of the kick-offs are going to sail out the back of the end-zone. That means he's mainly a punt return specialist.

 

They gave 3 years 9 million to a 32 year old punt returner? That's just nuts. As for Devin playing offense, how many offensive co-ordinators say they wanted to get Devin involved in the offense and didn't. Then they were fired.

 

Yeah, but how many of those offensive coordinators just plain sucked to begin with? It's not like Chicago has been synonymous for offensive success in the past three decades.

[Connorbear]

Yeah, but how many of those offensive coordinators just plain sucked to begin with? It's not like Chicago has been synonymous for offensive success in the past three decades.

Trestman did not. That's all that mattered. Maybe five years ago he could have done something with him but not now.

 

Peace

[Stinger226]

He might be worth the money he got. Depends on a few things. With the indoor turf of Atlanta versus Chicago outdoor grass theory I've heard he (Hester) could become "faster" and elusive. He could put Atl offense in pretty good field position in order for Matt Ryan and the O to operate. If Atlanta and their O is able to make that next step past the early rounds of the playoffs and because they were able to get production out of Hester "only" as a return man, then $3 million was worth it.

 

For Atlanta that is... Not for Chicago. They needed too much elsewhere and couldn't afford that much of a luxury.

Your dreaming on that thought.

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Your dreaming on that thought.

 

???

 

Dreaming about Atlanta doing well or Hester? Id like Hester to break the record but not in the NFC Championship against the Bears.

[Connorbear]

???

 

Dreaming about Atlanta doing well or Hester? Id like Hester to break the record but not in the NFC Championship against the Bears.

 

Any return he has in the post season wouldn't count. He would already have the record if it did (i.e. the Superbowl).

 

Peace

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Any return he has in the post season wouldn't count. He would already have the record if it did (i.e. the Superbowl).

 

Peace

 

Thanks for ruining the technical irony.

[AZ54]

Atlanta will be disappointed with Hester as a WR. Let's roll the tape back a year where Hester was saying he just wanted to focus on one thing….returns. Now he says he wants to play some WR again. He only says he wants to play WR when there's a new contract involved. He was a good returner for us last year but he was not what he used to be. I think he'll have a good year returning kicks for Atlanta as well, maybe even grab a couple more TDs. I wish him the best unless it's against us.

 

As for him being faster and quicker on the turf in Atlanta….I'm pretty sure the coverage units will be faster and quicker too.

[Stinger226]

Atlanta will be disappointed with Hester as a WR. Let's roll the tape back a year where Hester was saying he just wanted to focus on one thing….returns. Now he says he wants to play some WR again. He only says he wants to play WR when there's a new contract involved. He was a good returner for us last year but he was not what he used to be. I think he'll have a good year returning kicks for Atlanta as well, maybe even grab a couple more TDs. I wish him the best unless it's against us.

 

As for him being faster and quicker on the turf in Atlanta….I'm pretty sure the coverage units will be faster and quicker too.

I think Hester did a good job last year, but he is not a 3 mil a year guy as some people purpose on here. The rule changes have made him ineffective on KRs anymore and on punts he makes to many fair catches and lets the ball drop to much. Just not the player he use to be and you have to ask u what thats worth. Obviously not much to us. Hope he does gets one more TD but he doesnt do it in bunches anymore, just not worth 3 mil.

[Connorbear]

I think Hester did a good job last year, but he is not a 3 mil a year guy as some people purpose on here. The rule changes have made him ineffective on KRs anymore and on punts he makes to many fair catches and lets the ball drop to much. Just not the player he use to be and you have to ask u what thats worth. Obviously not much to us. Hope he does gets one more TD but he doesnt do it in bunches anymore, just not worth 3 mil.

I would love to see him make the hall so I wouldn't mind if he got another four or five to secure his place.

 

Peace

[jason]

Trestman did not. That's all that mattered. Maybe five years ago he could have done something with him but not now.

 

Peace

 

Dude, give it a rest. I was specifically replying to someone who mentioned previous OCs and their inability to get Hester involved. You act as if anyone who is not currently on the Bears is not worthy of discussion/debate/whatever. This site is talkbears.com, not talkcurrentbears.com.

[jason]

Atlanta will be disappointed with Hester as a WR. Let's roll the tape back a year where Hester was saying he just wanted to focus on one thing….returns. Now he says he wants to play some WR again. He only says he wants to play WR when there's a new contract involved. He was a good returner for us last year but he was not what he used to be. I think he'll have a good year returning kicks for Atlanta as well, maybe even grab a couple more TDs. I wish him the best unless it's against us.

 

As for him being faster and quicker on the turf in Atlanta….I'm pretty sure the coverage units will be faster and quicker too.

 

That's a little cynical don't you think? Couldn't it be possible that Hester was saying that because that's what he felt the coaches wanted? The team wanted? Maybe they said to him that is all he needed to focus on, and that's exactly what he decided to do? Seems pretty logical to me.

[Connorbear]

Dude, give it a rest. I was specifically replying to someone who mentioned previous OCs and their inability to get Hester involved. You act as if anyone who is not currently on the Bears is not worthy of discussion/debate/whatever. This site is talkbears.com, not talkcurrentbears.com.

 

Alrighty then!!!

 

Peace

[lemonej]

IMO Hester was too stupid to remain on offense and good riddance!He started off on defense and couldn't figure out what to do on that side of the ball and then got a huge contract to be a number one WR from two guys that didn't know offense and often ran the wrong routes and dropped passes. In my lifetime Hester is the greatest returnman in Bears history over my childhood idol Sayers and the legendary Ron "Gingerbreadman"Smith who never fair caught a punt.WTBS looking at him as anything but a returner now is a bit much. If this team can show a future HOF LB the door with a contract offer less than what Hester signed for, then why is it so much angst over a special teams player. Once Dante Hall left KC what did he do?

[jason]

IMO Hester was too stupid to remain on offense and good riddance!He started off on defense and couldn't figure out what to do on that side of the ball and then got a huge contract to be a number one WR from two guys that didn't know offense and often ran the wrong routes and dropped passes. In my lifetime Hester is the greatest returnman in Bears history over my childhood idol Sayers and the legendary Ron "Gingerbreadman"Smith who never fair caught a punt.WTBS looking at him as anything but a returner now is a bit much. If this team can show a future HOF LB the door with a contract offer less than what Hester signed for, then why is it so much angst over a special teams player. Once Dante Hall left KC what did he do?

 

There was similar angst for that HOF MLB...and rightfully so considering how much he was missed.

[lemonej]

Jason I agree but it was real frustrating to see Hester stand back on kickoffs and watch them sail over his head. On punts in the last couple of years teams would try and pin him to one side of the field and in his zest to try and make a play he would often make mistakes whether it was catching the ball inside the 10 or fair catching the ball when there was room for him to make an attempt. Again I will say that Devin Hester is the greatest Bears returnman in my 54+ yr life without a doubt but at 3 mil a yr for a maybe play and limited ability to flip the field like early in his career because of rule changes it is not worth it.

 

The league keeps trying to change rules for kickoffs and extra points but don't remember the most memorable return in NFL history was Hester in the SB and the most recent memorable FG return was a record breaking return by Hester. They keep trying to tweak the game with safety in mind but if they are so worried about safety then they need to put flags on everyone. Of all the players involved in the on going safety lawsuits, if Jim McMahon is one of them then the league lawyers need to point to the fact that he headbutted his O-lineman after every score and maybe that had a little to do with his current problems.