A logical scenario

[Stinger226]

This article is exactly what I see happening in the draft this year.

 

As the article suggests, the more tap I watch on Donald the more I see him not handling the run in the NFL.Gilbert has all the tools but dont see having the savy to star in the league.

 

As it states, I see us dropping down and either grabbing the players they mention or a S such as Ward or even a Bucannon. I doubt if Pryor will be there.

 

http://nflmocks.com/2014/04/13/chicago-bea...back-nfl-draft/

[AZ54]

Yes but everyone says trade back and all teams can't trade back. So who is trading up in a "deep" draft? I hear the 49ers but what are they willing to give up? Will it be enough or will they be looking for the bargain deal? I'd much rather gamble on elite physical talents like Gilbert or Donald rather than drop back to where the players don't have elite athleticism with little gain to show for that in terms of additional picks.

 

Donald may be a bit of a liability against the run but if he's a beast on pass rushes….well this is a passing league now. I really think with Donald it is more of a situation where he can play in a 1-gap scheme but not a 2-gap scheme.

 

Gilbert may not be perfect but he's a great athlete and he's still a very good player.

 

I don't rule out other options either such as Jernigan who is extremely physical in the middle. Maybe not the same as a pass rusher as Donald but he's solid on 1st/2nd down and can do some 3rd down pass rush too. In many ways he's the opposite of Donald and both are very good players. Who we take depends on what our scheme is and we don't know what our scheme is.

[Guest TerraTor]

Not that I disagree with trading back, but I think this article is stupid.

 

Pointing out poor depth at RB and TE? The bigger concern is no starters at DT and S. .. and

[lemonej]

Not that I disagree with trading back, but I think this article is stupid.

 

Pointing out poor depth at RB and TE? The bigger concern is no starters at DT and S. .. and

 

TT I'm with you! Depth at RB is really a non issue since this team and most others are in 1 back sets most of the time. 1 mid to late round pick could change the depth as well as an undrafted free agent. Just think Morris of Washington and Arien Foster of Houston.

 

Our DT rotation currently is 2 scrap heap guys Ratliff and Collins plus a underachieving draft pick Paea. Our safeties are a collection of special teamers and Conte a pump fake away from being cut IMO.

[bradjock]

Not that I disagree with trading back, but I think this article is stupid.

 

Pointing out poor depth at RB and TE? The bigger concern is no starters at DT and S. .. and

 

They are just pointing out the need for depth at so many different levels. They prefaced it by saying they are thin at all levels on defense which led to our collapse last season. But we are also woefully thin at TE and RB. That just cements the argument we should trade back.

 

That being said, I agree it's a stupid article. Starting with declaring, "Jerigan and Donald are not can't miss prospects." They may not be, but I remember when everyone declared that Curtis Enis was a "can't miss prospect." In other words, its stupid that anybody would declare that of any football prospect.

[adam]

Not that I disagree with trading back, but I think this article is stupid.

 

Pointing out poor depth at RB and TE? The bigger concern is no starters at DT and S. .. and

I agree, then the same could be said for QB, CB (Tillman/Jennings), WR (Marshall), LB (Briggs), etc. Kind of silly.

 

I too am cooling on Donald in the 1st. I would much rather go with the top Safety or CB if we can't get the "right" guy on the DLine. Obviously it would be nice to trade back to pick up another pick but as Emery has said, you rarely get the same value when you do that.

[Stinger226]

I agree, then the same could be said for QB, CB (Tillman/Jennings), WR (Marshall), LB (Briggs), etc. Kind of silly.

 

I too am cooling on Donald in the 1st. I would much rather go with the top Safety or CB if we can't get the "right" guy on the DLine. Obviously it would be nice to trade back to pick up another pick but as Emery has said, you rarely get the same value when you do that.

The point of the article was if we trade down our extra picks can fill other needs. And like everybody says we need many spots filled. 50% of the first round picks are busts. So its all a crap shoot. I see us trading down and different names will be in place down there. My pick if it was my choice would be Pryor, as much as I like Donald, he will not be a good run defender which would put him into a role as a pass rusher, something he does very well. I want someone in the first round being a starter from day 1.